While some of you are well immersed in your holiday debauchery, others amongst us (present company not included, of course) are already getting a head start on those New Year’s Resolutions…to the extreme. From Thursday’s New York Times and Stephanie Cooperman (link courtesy Sam Frank).
A controversial exercise program has attracted a growing following of thousands nationwide, who log on to CrossFit.com for a daily workout, said its founder, Greg Glassman. Participants skip StairMasters and weight machines. Instead they do high-intensity workouts that mix gymnastics, track and field skills and bodybuilding, resting very little between movements.
The emphasis is on speed and weight hoisted, not technique. And the importance placed on quantifiable results has attracted hard-charging people like hedge fund managers, former Olympians and scientists. But some exercise experts are troubled by the lack of guidance for beginners, who may dive into stressful workouts as Mr. Anderson did. (He had not worked out regularly for two years.) “There’s no way inexperienced people doing this are not going to hurt themselves,” said Wayne Winnick, a sports medicine specialist in private practice in Manhattan, who also works for the New York City Marathon.
Other critics say that even fit people risk injury if they exercise strenuously and too quickly to give form its due, as CrossFit participants often do. For people who like to push the limits of fitness and strength – there are many police officers, firefighters and military personnel in the ranks of CrossFit athletes – the risks are worth it, because they consider it the most challenging workout around.
The short grueling sessions aren’t for the weekend gym warrior. The three-days-on, one-day-rest schedule includes workouts like “Cindy”: 20 minutes of as many repetitions as you can of 5 pull-ups, 10 push-ups, 15 squats. “Fight Gone Bad” entails rotating through five exercises, including throwing a 20-pound ball at a target 10 feet away. And only veteran CrossFit devotees even attempt, and few complete, “Murph,” a timed mile run, 100 pull-ups, 200 push-ups, 300 squats and then a second mile run. (A weighted vest is optional.)
Mr. Glassman, CrossFit’s founder, does not discount his regimen’s risks, even to those who are in shape and take the time to warm up their bodies before a session.
“It can kill you,” he said. “I’ve always been completely honest about that.”
But CrossFitters revel in the challenge. A common axiom among practitioners is “I met Pukey,” meaning they worked out so hard they vomited. Some even own T-shirts emblazoned with a clown, Pukey. CrossFit’s other mascot is Uncle Rhabdo, another clown, whose kidneys have spilled onto the floor presumably due to rhabdomyolysis.
High intensity exercise is great and works ( other types of exercise also are also great and work). The crossfit website asks beginners to go through a process of understanding/rehersal and mastery before they jump into full scale workouts ( all of which can be moderated for any ability) If you decide to leap into a new exercise type, and choose to lift weights that you cannot handle, the blame surely is with the individual . As for the pukey stuff, all groups have an extreme,( city brokers who drink too much, runners who chase the runners high) you cannot judge a whole movement on the extreme: as for breaking your neck: this is a risk factor in the olympic sport of gymnastics ( as drowning is in swimming) which crossfit encourages skill acquisition.The coded message is understand the risks of whatever you do
“But here’s the fascinating part. We can take you from a 200 pound max deadlift to a 500-750 pound max deadlift in two years while only pulling max singles four or five times a year.” – Greg Glassman
The above statement comes from this interview http://www.powerathletesmag.com/archives/Girevik/Five/interviewglassman.htm
This is an incredible statement(150-375% incr. in 1RM) upon which Greg Glassman refuses to substantiate or clarify. Those who attempt to discuss this on Glassman’s web forum(www.crossfit.com) are banned and their posts are deleted.
So what’s with the bizarre obsession with a one time quote on getting a deadlift to 500+ LBs? Sounds pretty difficult to me, but then if it’s not been proven, does that mean that the clean & jerk is no longer a good exercise, that interval training no longer improves VO2 max in spite of the sports science literature, or that Spec war guys aren’t using similar protocols, or that guys like Mark Twight who test this stuff in the mountains every day are now FOS? Or are you just exercising some sort of petty jealousy? If you got banned from the site, it was most likely for being a jerk.
Nice try, the claim was 700+. Enjoy the Kool-Aid !
Uh, no you quoted 500 to 750. Nice try distorting his quote.
It is interesting that you view a direct quote with a link to the oroginal source as “distortion”. To say that we “can” take someone to 500-750 implies quite strongly that the 750lb DL has been achieved as a result of CF. You and I both know this yet you choose to focus on my skepticism of the claim rather than the unlikelihood of its ever really happening. I will leave you with one question and then the last word is yours if choose to comment further. Mike, do you believe that Mr. Glassman has coached anyone to a 700+ lb DL ?
I believe he has coached a person who started at 200 LBs or so to a 500+ deadlift, therefore meeting his claim. Saying you can take someone to 500-700 LBs implies you can take someone to at least 500 LBs and possibly 700.
Why the obsession, anyway?
And oh by the way, I don’t “disappear when confronted with logic”, I ski patrol nights at the local ski hill. I’ll be glad to keep pointing out your mistake as long as you’re willing listen.
I guess it all depends on wht the meaning of the “can” is. Most literate people use this word when discussing things that they are actually able to do. When they are discussing things that they might be to do it is customary to add such words “may” or “possibly”. I find this whole thing quite amusing, especially since you are evading the question. It is a real dilemma, isn’t it ? You wan’t to defend the claim to prove your loyalty to CF but even you know that the part about 750# is ludicrous.
I guess it all depends on what a range of numbers mean. Most literate people treat a range of numbers such as “500 – 750” to mean a lower bound of 500 and an upper bound of 750. You don’t, for some odd reason that is probably tied to a dislike of CF.
I find the train wreck of a thread on Irongarm amusing in watching a train wreck sort of way, in that adults would actually threaten, joking or not, to kill someone and rape their wife and think it’s funny. What passes for discourse on the internet never ceases to amaze me.
You’re not very bright are you ? The 750# has to actually occur to be included in the range, if you don’t believe me consult a statistics textbook or google the term “raw data”. Last question do you believe that the CF method has produced a 700+ lb deadlift ? Yes or no ? I’m out.
You’re not very bright, are you? If a lift falls within the range, it’s in the range. If you don’t believe me, consult someone as to what the word “range” means. Last question do you believe that anyone would ever bother to give anything you ever said serious thought after you publicly threatened to kill someone and rape their wife over their dead body? Yes or no? I’m out.
Mike, I have never publicly threatened anyone with violence. You are confusing me, perhaps intentionally, with someone else.
OK, in checking, it wasn’t you in the Irongarm thread that threatened the Glassmans.
Thanks for achnowledging this fact. I done(for real, this time). Best of luck.
You too
Your article claims that CrossFit does not place emphasis on technique. Where did you EVER get that idea? I have been training with CrossFit for 10 years. The first 5 years were with Coach Greg Glassman as my trainer. From the outset I lifted only a wooden pole until I had the moves (“technique”) down and then I started with the 15 lb bar and moved up. Coach Glassman no longer trains clients in our gym, but every CrossFit trainer in that gym starts beginners to CrossFit with the moves first, using only a pole. Technique is important. You have been misinformed.
Ms. Conover,
I appreciate your taking the time to check out a post that was made almost 4 1/2 years ago. However, please note the comments regarding CrossFit were made by the author of the original NY Times article and those he quoted. You could take it up with the Times’ sports section, but I doubt they’ll publish a letter concerning an item that ran in December of 2005.